Sun 21 Jan 2007
I’ve Become Car-Seat Obsessed
Posted by Liza under Personal
As we approach Noah’s birthday and his 12 month doctor visit, I’m becoming car seat obsessed.
You see, at his 9 month doctor visit, he was measured at 30.5″ tall, so we are close approaching the 32″ height limit on his “baby bucket” car seat, which we love.
And I hate his other car seat. It’s an evenflo titan, and it was a very generous hand-me-down, but it really doesn’t fit my tall boy. This weekend, I noticed that the belt slipped off of his shoulder, and I wasn’t able to tighten it enough to stay on — it’s helaciously difficult to tighten, and even as tight as I could manage, he could wiggle one shoulder loose, I think because the strap slot is so low. But the next one up is only supposed to be used forward facing, and he’s too young to be forward facing. (Not just my opinion, but actually under the law.)
So we need 1 new seat ASAP and another one pretty soon after that.
Because I used to rely on Consumer Reports for these kinds of things, and it freaks me out that they retracted their car seat test results and makes me wonder about their other car seat test results, I’m not going with their pick. Plus they like the evenflo titan, which, as I mentioned, I loathe.
I’m a regular reader of Estelle’s blog, and she writes often and knowledgeably about car seats. When Noah outgrew his first car seat, I asked her a few questions before buying the one he’s about to outgrow, so it made sense to turn to her again. Plus Charlie is even bigger than Noah. If Charlie is comfortable, the seat will probably work for Noah.
So Britax. But Marathon? Decathalon? Boulevard? How are they different? Besides price? Do we need to get the same thing?
Those are the 3 options because they all go to 65 lbs, and it would be nice not to have to buy another car seat for Noah until he starts kindergarten.
The Boulevard is the most expensive, clocking in retail at $299. But it has these side impact protection wing-thingies that really seem like they would do a good job protecting a child’s skull in a side impact crash. And I have an older car without side air bags.
The Decathalon’s biggest selling points seem to be more adjustability in the crotch and a push button tightening system, not a lever (harder for clever baby to loosen). But the message boards at car-seat.org include a lot of complaints that parents have trouble with sticky buttons.
The Marathon is the cheapest (not cheap: MSRP = $269), but the only differences seem to be lever vs button harness-adjuster and fewer crotch tabs. Is that a big issue?
Here’s what I’m trying to decide:
- How important is the side impact thing? I have an older car without rear airbags or LATCH, so Noah is essentially stuck in the rear-passenger position, not the middle rear. That makes me want the side impact protection. Am I just being paranoid?
- Is Jill’s car sufficiently safer than mine that if the side impact thing is important, we would be comfortable with a different car seat in her car?
- Should we get one of these (above), whatever we decide, wait until Noah fully outgrows his infant seat (I’m guessing March-ish) and get one of the forward-facing only, good all the way to 80 lbs, Britax Regents instead? (MSRP = $269).
I don’t know.
I just know that I want Noah to be safe, and I hate the titan. (And I don’t think he is safe. We are back to playing car seat runaround until we decide and buy something. And install it with the help of a certified trained car seat person.)
Ugh.





January 22nd, 2007 at 12:38 am
Liza,
We have the Marathon for Jr. and the Roundabout for Mini (spending less on Mini cause everything about the same, but she won’t get as tall and it’s for smaller babies). If I had to do it again, I’d get the Marathon for both because I think Jr. looks so much more comfy (I was being cheap).
I’m not sure the difference b/w the Dec. and Marathon make sense to me. The Babies R Us guy told us SOMETHING about the Dec. that made it not worth the money. HOWEVER, if you are talking about lever vs. button meaning the release and tightening system for the harness, I find the harness with the button release on Mini’s Roundabout much easier to tighten than the lever. With our minivan, I have to climb into the car to have enough leverage to pull the thing tight enough. AND, a word of advice if you DO get the Marathon. When you tighten, it “pumps” tighter, but you do need to pull past the pump to make it even more snug (that probably doesn’t make sense yet, but I think it will if you use it).
NOW I would pay $30 more for the button release harness cause it’s easier to tighten.
Make sure you look around so you can order a cool print (if you want one). Remember Jr.’s “cow-moo-flauge”?
January 22nd, 2007 at 12:50 am
Meant to ask, why can’t he be in the middle rear? Is it a shoulder strap issue?
January 22nd, 2007 at 7:58 am
Definitely don’t get a forward-facing only in March. Theoretically you could turn him anytime after his birthday but his spine and neck are still very vulnerable and will be FAR better protected rear-facing. Ideally, you’ll keep him RF until he outgrows the RF weight limit on whatever seat you choose. He may be 2 or 3 by that time and his spine and neck will be stronger and better able to withstand crash forces front facing, God forbid.
We have a Roundabout which we chose based on factors that weren’t necessarily the best. We thought we’d be able to keep her in the center position indefinitely, so didn’t need side impact protection. But now we are thinking about buying a new car where she might not be able to be in the center (there is no center!). Plus, we didn’t know how big she’d be (the seat was on our shower registry and bought 4 months before she arrived). It’s now quite likely that she’ll outgrow the Roundabout before she turns 4.
If I were buying a seat for her now and cost was not a factor, I’d go with the Boulevard, assuming we could squash it into our car. And that’s another thing you’ll want to check. Make sure you do a test install before buying. And that you can figure out where to attach the rear facing tether (it doesn’t matter that you don’t have LATCH for that - almost no cars have RF tether anchors so you anchor it to a fixed metal piece of the frame, like a seat post).
Good luck and if you have more questions, just email Estelle. (If you need her email, I’ve got it.)
January 22nd, 2007 at 9:50 am
Great. Guess who just bought a Titan for our second car? And who has a similarly lollipop-shaped son? We have an Evenflo Triumph, which is fine, but the straps vex me. The Titan seemed to have easier strap adjustments. Have you tried calling Evenflo for advice on the situation?
January 22nd, 2007 at 9:51 am
When I read posts and comments like these, I start to get extremely overwhelmed and panicky about motherhood. Decisions! Acronyms! Safety! Pant, pant, pant… what have I done??
January 22nd, 2007 at 10:58 am
Carrie, I would seriously return the Titan if you can. I haven’t called evenflo, but I originally got it set up with the help of a friend whose job is being a car seat educator at our local children’s hospital. She says they are notoriously difficult to properly tighten.
Also, I forgot to mention that Noah’s neck is chafed from the strap he didn’t evade. Poor guy.
Kat & Jen, thanks for your thoughts. I may email Estelle, or maybe she’ll just weigh in with opinions on her own.
January 22nd, 2007 at 11:54 am
Oops, didn’t mean to ignore Bri! Um, yeah…motherhood has some very freaky and overwhelming moments. The first month or 2 were the worst for that, but all times of big expensive decisionmaking suck.
January 22nd, 2007 at 12:42 pm
We have the Marathon… and LOVE LOVE LOVE it… Shepherd is tall too… already 30 inches, and the seat has worked wonderfully. It’s easy to get him in and out of (which was a MUST have for me). Sooo… I’d whole heartedly vote for that one… plus, since we’re having another child, by the time Shepherd’s ready to move to a Booster seat, the other child will be ready for the marathon, so we couldn’t justify a super long life carseat.
Hope this helps!!!
January 22nd, 2007 at 2:36 pm
We have the Marathon and LOVE it. Henry is hap-hap-happy as a clam in it. Henry’s long, too–and it’s just so much easier to adjust the straps and everything.
I think it’s a crime that the best seats on the market are upwards of $250, but I’d pay 2.5 million for that kind of safety and peace of mind.
We’re wondering what we’ll do when it comes time for a second car. We only have one car now, but I imagine we’ll be getting another car if we move to the ‘burbs. I guess we’ll have to establish which car is designated as the family car and work from there.
January 22nd, 2007 at 2:47 pm
No matter which one you settle on - he won’t be in it until kindergarten. He will move to a booster around age 4. Then the whole research process needs to start again!!
January 22nd, 2007 at 3:02 pm
we have the marathon and it is great. kennedy loves riding in it and looks very comfy. i also wanted to mention that we purchased ours online at tinyride.com free shipping and no tax. plus i think if you fill out a survey you get $20.
we had the fire department install our car seat. they usually have a trained car seat person at each station.
January 22nd, 2007 at 5:45 pm
A kid can be in a 5-pt harness to kindergarten and longer; it’s a matter of parents holding firm against cries of “That’s a baby seat!” and “All my friends have boosters.”
January 22nd, 2007 at 6:51 pm
Bri - I feel your pain! I am so confused about what to buy too! And to top it off we are in NYC and our carseat has to be compatable with whatever stroller we buy, but the stroller has to be “city sturdy” because it will be the baby’s primary mode of transportation.
I thought I figured out a good (albeit expensive) combo of the Graco Snug Ride w/ the Bugaboo. But if the Consumer Reports test results are recanted and the Snug Ride car seat isn’t 1 of 2 that passed their test, then I don’t necessarily want to spend that much $$$ on the Bugaboo Stroller! So now we are back at square one!
Ugh.
January 22nd, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Anna - we are about 98% certain we are going with the Bugaboo, since we’re also in NYC. I wish we could find something a bit less prevalent (we love to be unique) but the SnugRide’s ratings are still excellent no matter what CR says - ask Estelle. We really like the Orbit system but it’s even more expensive than the Bug and very new - not on any of those big safety tests yet.
January 22nd, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Aunt Anna & Bri, you might want to go somewhere and physically look at the Graco SafeSeat Step 1 and see if it works with the Bugaboo stroller.
It is bigger than the SnugRide, but maybe not at the base. It still snapped together with our stroller, no problems. And it is safe to 30 lbs/32″ tall which is 97% of 1 year olds. (No problems, that is, except being ugly together. We bought the SafeSeat when you could only get it in 1 design (black/silver/red/modern), completely different-looking than our SnugRide & stroller (light green/vaguely traditional).)
If I were a “my car is a taxi” family, I think I would want to keep the “baby bucket” and stroller snap-in type car seat as long as possible. It is Da Bomb for when the baby falls asleep while you’re out.
January 22nd, 2007 at 8:07 pm
Anna, you should click over to Bri’s site and find your way her husband’s business! I think you might really like their doggy goods. I suspect the two of you might also have similar taste in baby gear.
January 22nd, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Bri - How excting to find another New Yorker on my sister’s blog! Are you a real life friend of hers? When are you due?
We looked at the Orbit. I wasn’t that into it. I kind of like the Explory though.
January 22nd, 2007 at 8:37 pm
Bri and Anna– I’m also a New Yorker and needed a city-sturdy travel system. We went with the Peg Perego Aria system.
My advice is not to waste your money on a big fancy travel system. Buy the Snap-n-Go and use that until the baby grows out of it. Then invest in a nice MacLaren–every city mommy’s best friend: light, sturdy, easy-to-clean, and fits in the smallest of trunks/hallways/entryways.
The Snap-n-Go is the easiest for a newborn. By the time the baby grows out of it, he/she will be old/big enough to be forward-facing in their lovely new MacLaren (we have the Quest, I LURVE it!)
The Bugaboo? TOO MUCH MONEY!
January 22nd, 2007 at 9:11 pm
I only know Bri in the blogosphere, but we have friends in common who we both know in real life and online (”Jen (yup, another one)” and her partner Cait, in real life; tons of the people who comment here who you don’t think you’ve met are mutual online friends.)
Lizzy I haven’t technically met in real life either, but she is superduper good friends with Dave W’s wife Liz, so it feels like we already know each other.
Aunt Anna, are you having a shower in NYC? I’m thinking maybe we should come to that and to meet all these cool New Yorkers.
January 22nd, 2007 at 9:15 pm
I have no idea if I am having a shower here. I “guess” my girlfriends might throw me one… but no one has mentioned it yet. I also “guess” my office will do one. (There are lots of Charlottes in my office).
You should email Kathy or Jennie Sue if you are comfortable asking them.
Of course you are welcome to come anytime you want…shower or no shower!
January 22nd, 2007 at 9:36 pm
Thank you! Our travel budget is such that we need pretty good excuses, and even then, it isn’t likely to be a lavish year. But, we’d both like to visit. If not for a shower, to meet the baby!
Jennie Sue’s email bounced — I only had her work address.
January 23rd, 2007 at 8:42 am
Got your email, replying to it shortly. Sorry I didn’t get this the other day.
DO NOT buy him a FF only seat. And DO NOT put him in a booster at age four. That is all.
PS- If anyone else has car seat questions, I am available online at no charge
splashandwally@gmail.com
January 23rd, 2007 at 10:47 pm
We have a Roundabout center in our car with a very small backseat, because nothing else would fit rearfacing and still have room for a passenger. When Bigfella outgrows the Roundabout, we’ll either buy him a Regent or get a Boulevard
In our other car, we have a Boulevard outboard. We got the Boulevard because I knew it would have to go outboard, and wanted the side impact protection.
We got our Boulevard for less than the MSRP for a Marathon on www.specialtybaby.com If they aren’t on sale, just keep checking back until they are. It seems like they put them on sale every couple months…
January 23rd, 2007 at 10:51 pm
In terms of strollers, i wish now we had explored the Bumbleride Queenbee. Our Bugaboo was a gift from a generous NYC dwelling relative. it is woefully out of place in our small town (though now that there is a boutique that sells the Bug we don’t get quite the stares we once did).
We never bothered with a snap-in for our snugride, which was good, since Bigfella outgrew his Snugride by 9 weeks old…